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OurAirports members at KCJJ
Ellen Church Field is not the home base for any OurAirports members. It has had no visits from members.
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Identifier?
🔗 Mon, 13 Aug 2012
— Anonymous Flyer at Ellen Church Field, United States Reply
I see some references to this field called KCJJ.
AirportCodesa.com says its ICAO is KCJJ
AirportGuide.com says ICAO is KCJJ, FAA is CJJ
Hello Flight
Wikipedia for Iowa: ICAO is KCJJ, FAA is CJJ
Sadly I can't put in the URLs into this form for reference.
re: Identifier?
🔗 Mon, 13 Aug 2012
— @ptomblin at Ellen Church Field, United States Reply
Yes, that is correct. When an airport in the "lower 48" contiguous United States has an FAA id that consists of only letters, it also has an ICAO code that consists of a "K" plus those same three letters. I am not aware of any airport in the lower 48 that does not obey that rule. In Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico and US possessions, the mapping is lot less regular.
re: Identifier?
🔗 Sun, 26 Aug 2012
— @david at Ellen Church Field, United States Reply
Reply to @ptomblin: the problem is that the ICAO doesn't recognize all of the KXXX identifiers. For example, Norwood Airport (FAA: OWD) is referred to as "KOWD" in GPS databases, but AFAIK, there is no "KOWD" ICAO code.
re: Identifier?
🔗 Sun, 26 Aug 2012
— @ptomblin at Ellen Church Field, United States Reply
Reply to @david: http://www.activitae.com/cgi-bin/htmlSearch.pl - I don't know if this actually looks at the ICAO database, or if it just applies the standard rule to the FAA ids. But it lists KOWD (and not abominations like K7G0 like I've seen in some places).
re: Identifier?
🔗 Tue, 04 Sep 2012
— @david at Ellen Church Field, United States Reply
Reply to @ptomblin: you have to pay for the official list, but here's a copy (re)published by Mexico in 2010: http://www.mexico.icao.int/icaoaspa2010/ECCAIRS/Documentation/Taxonomy/R4CDLocationIndicatorsByState.pdf
re: Identifier?
🔗 Tue, 04 Sep 2012
— @ptomblin at Ellen Church Field, United States Reply
Reply to @david: I don't trust that list, because it doesn't list Genesee County Airport, which changed its FAA id from 3G8 to GVQ because it had weather reporting and so therefore needed an ICAO identifier KGVQ. That happened when the US adopted METAR/TAF back in the late 1990s/early 2000s.
re: Identifier?
🔗 Wed, 05 Sep 2012
— @david at Ellen Church Field, United States Reply
Reply to @ptomblin: I have an old paper copy of the official ICAO "Location Identifiers" doc (ICAO Doc 7910/128) from June 2008. It lists no identifier "KGVQ". The closest ones are "KGUS" (Grisson AFB) and "KGVW" (Kansas City, Richards-Gebaur Airport). I suspect that someone was using "ICAO" informally, as a synonym for "four-letter all-alpha identifier".
The confusion over ICAO identifiers, especially in the US, is the main reason that I went for "GPS code" instead with OurAirports.