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re: Can't find this airport
This new location is certainly closer to Sliker Road.
re: Can't find this airport
This certainly looks more convincing. I'll put it at the location you suggested, at least until we find more official information.
re: Can't find this airport
I believe from speaking with locals that this is the correct location:
40 degrees 44' 56.64" N 74 degrees 51' 46.03" W
my first airport
I learned to fly with Ernie at Trinca in a J-3 in 1961. Then I bought my Stinson 108 to take my license. I left Trinca and moved to another state. When I flew back, I was porposing. I asked Ernie to do some dual to find out the cause. He said I had been flying at too many paved airports and wasn't following the undulations of the runway. No more problem. I had the Stinson from Maine to San Diego. It's true, you can learn to fly well at Trinca, and have some fond memories to take with you. I still fly when I get a chance, and my son flies for Delta.
Bill Bundy
re: Where it all began- ED GORSKI- Great GUY
Reply to @blueskyes:
Enjoyed reading about your Ed Gorski experiences ---I agree, good man!
I can see him again in the round concrete office saying "---hmm don't have enough money eh? --- ok build an airport symbol with a wind sock out there near the runway and we'll start teaching you to fly". That was in 1946 and I was back from 23 missions as flight engineer on B-24's in the South Pacific.
Ed's CFI Steve Bannister #33659 sat in the front of the Piper Cub puffing a cigar (no, really; blew smoke back over his shoulder in my face!) and we were off for "Familiarization, Climb, Glide, Turns, Coordinations" for 30 minutes. It's all right here in my log book that your fine write-up made me dig out -- Cub J3 -- 27056-- Cont 65 --- wonder if they are still renting it out.
After a later solo it was Ed that called me down in what you accurately described as a 'gruff' manner for flying over with rpm way too high!
On a later solo the engine died on final in one of his Cubs --- the telephone lines across the approach (since taken down) raised a question Bannister had not discussed with me --- over the wires or under the wires? --- I picked over and the wheels cleared by inches --- hmmm strange how the wheels get closer to those wires as the years go by.
Ed had worked with Amelia Earhardt at Teterboro and did big things in WWII according to a book on his life --- which is somewhere around the house here --- oh well.
Thanks for your memory stimulating words blueskyes.
new website
flycdw.com
Andover
It has a nice park attached to it. Bring food and drinks (nothing to buy there) and enjoy the view of the lake and the little Piper Cubs landing on the grass runway. It's a great place to practice short field landings. There is water on both ends, so you can come rather low and cross the threshold lower that usual. All times I have been there, I never used more than half the runway for a complete stop.
re: Awful airport for visiting NYC
Reply to @david: The way to use ewr is to use airtrain - same with jfk - really cheap and easy - $5 or $10 + train ride, bypass traffic
Former student at Lincoln Park Airport
This is the first time I have seen this website, and I am pleased to see the response from others about the airport.
Back in 1962 on my sixteenth birthday my grandfather paid for my first lesson.
The plane was a Piper PA-11, tail number 4549M. The instructor was H.T. Buckley.
The lesson was only thirty minutes but the memory lasted a lifetime. That day I was introduced to Ed Gorski and his wife, and other pilots were in the office on that day. After that first flight, I spent every dollar I earned going back for more, for I could not get enough of this new experience which completely changed my life. I remember after I had soloed once or twice Ed would ride in the back seat for the first couple of landings, to make sure I was able to handle the cross wind conditions, he always seemed to have a cigar in his mouth and yelling orders from the back seat about what I was doing wrong. When I fly today I can still hear his voice and it brings back back fond memories.
There is a lot more that I would l like to share about my experiences at the Lincoln Park airport but the website does not allow the space it would require. I thank you for the opportunity to share my experiences.
Robert J. Ruck sales@class1tool.com
0NJ5 Fla Net
Devil of a time in Flight Sim 2004 landing a Grumman Duck on this hard-to-find little strip, and I REFUSE to
use GPS on this trip !! If I can't eyeball it, I'm not setting down on it.
Pemberton Airport, New Jersey
Pemnerton Airport is a " Down Home Type " Airport, and is a great place to visit. The Pilots, and regular folks are very nice. Jim 47N
OY-JET
If you want to see cluelessness in action, google for the OY-JET video. A jet registered in Denmark "landed" at Bader Field, landing downwind on a runway NOTAMed against jet operations, touched down at about the half way point on a runway that would have been too small for that jet even without a tail wind and without leaving half the runway behind them, skidded into the bay, and then after everybody was evacuated one of the jet engines seemed to start up and start pushing the plane around the bay.
re: Just had to get this one in while it is still on the map
Reply to @XingR:
And that's one of the excuses they always use for closing airports. They build these monstrosities near the approaches (even though there are usually lots of other places they COULD build them) and then later claim that "it's dangerous to have an airport near all these people." In this case, they even build a sports stadium basicaly *ON* the airfield. *sigh*
Ride with Ed in 1954 (Tri_Pacer)
I'll keep it short, me and friend Garry Flipped a coin for the right seat on a ride, garry won and as we were flying gracious Ed asked if he knew something about flying, He said yes and Ed said take over and Garry gripped the control wheel then Ed asked for a turn and Garry quickly performed a split-S (which would have made an SBD pilot envious) and had me viewing the Totowa Drive-In parking lot thru the windscreen. Ed calmly cut the throttle and very gently recovered to straight and level. Cigar smoking Ed never lost it and just verbally said thats not how you do it.
Just a little 50s aviation trivia involving some past events. Garry went on to get his license many years later, and a 172.
Rich S.
re: Don't depart IFR on a VFR day!
Normally, a control tower will put your IFR clearance on request with center, then clear you to taxi to the active while they're waiting for the clearance to arrive for them to relay to you.
re: Don't depart IFR on a VFR day!
In my case, I taxied without the IFR clearance because that was what I was instructed to do when I called for a clearance.
re: Don't depart IFR on a VFR day!
Reply to @david: I don't understand this. Why would you begin to taxi before getting your clearance. Just wondering
re: ATIS, communication with CT
Thanks for the info....it's not that I was in a hurry, I was in the plane on the ramp getting ready to taxi. and later inbound for landing. Kind of tough to see the phone# on the gate from either location. ;-) Good to know where I can find it though. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
re: ATIS, communication with CT
Reply to @CathyV:
CDW towers phone number is posted right at the front gate, near ops all numbers are listed you cant miss it. You must have been in a hurry if you didnt catch it.
RobG
Awful airport for visiting NYC
This is a great airport for visiting northern New Jersey, but a truly awful one for visiting NYC. It is a very long, expensive cab ride into Manhattan from EWR -- I once spent 90 minutes stuck in Hoboken in rush hour before even trying the tunnels. The tunnels themselves (Holland or Lincoln) are both very slow.
The worst part, though, is trying to get *back* to EWR from Manhattan. New York cabbies hate doing the drive, since they can't take a fare back and will end up losing an hour or two of their day. The worst time is mid- to late-afternoon, near shift change. I once had to bribe a cabbie with an extra $50 just so that he'd take me in time to get my suppertime flight. Seriously, if you have any choice at all, fly into LaGuardia instead, where it's a cheap and reasonably quick NYC cab ride into Manhattan.
re: Harrowing And Fond Memories
My primary flight training back in 1969-71 was out of LGA. The school was the long extinct La Guardia Flying Service. LGA being what it is meant we flew elsewhere for practicing t&g's and full stop landings. Lincoln Park was probably my favorite airport since I could get an idea of what making a carrier landing was like. If I remember correctly, the runway was gravel in those days and much shorter. Can anyone confirm this?
Dennis Harper
Wrong ID?
This isn't the NJ77 in the FAA data - that one is "Warren County Public Safety Department".
Data problem
This airport doesn't exist in the FAA data (although there is an airport either right here, or very nearby, called Hill Top, with the id "JY43". Plus, there is a different airport with the id "3NJ9" called "Allen Airstrip".
Harrowing And Fond Memories
my flight instruction took place at BeechEast over at TEB back in the 80's... the instructors there (some of best people on earth) seemed to enjoy bringing the cocky students (like myself) over to Lincoln Park for a lil bit of humility training (i mean, after all, we did pay for it, didn't we)... maybe it was that look of shock and fear in our eyes when we first sighted the runway... maybe they took some sadistic pleasure in casually announcing, 'ok there's the runway, go ahead and land', and then sitting back and gauging our reaction, knowing full well that all any person of rational sensibilities could see was this ribbon of what looked like half a roadway with numbers on the ends... surely that couldn't be the runway that he was asking me to land on... it was just too thin to be a runway for real airplanes...
or maybe it was the knowledge that after landing at Lincoln Park once or twice, the new, soon to be pilot would be confident of his or her abilities to take their charge into anything that the FAA allowed to be called an airport... regardless of the width of its runways... maybe these flight instuctors knew a thing or two... or three...
so nowadays... whenever i see tv news replays of those airliners making emergency landings... and the pilot puts it down right on the centerline... i can rest assured that that pilot probably landed at Licoln Park at least once during his/her early flying days...
i drove out to Lincoln Park once after that... i just had to get a feel for what looked like one of those idyllic small local airports... from a different perspective... i wasn't dissapointed...
is the lil viewing gallery at the north end of the field still there...
--Mike Hense
ATIS, communication with CT
I have been flying at CDW since sometime in the summer and have been baffled by the rapid fire communication from the Tower. I can't even think that fast never mind copying key information. I just heard the ATIS ... it is currently 11/16/098 1020 EST and all I could make out was the runways in use....28 and 22. From my perspective it was supersonic. There is a lot of flight training at CDW, in fact I'm at one of flight schools on the field, and I can just imagine the frustration and intimication for students when the ATIS is in 'fast forward'....not to mention communication in general, which I've also found to be exceptionally fast. Repeated 'say again' is very inefficient and ultimately a risk to safety.
For most of my prior experience I was based at MMU, and it was a rarity when I wasn't able to get the ATIS or any other communication on first shot. I have wanted to provide this feedback for months and today's ATIS was the last straw. Since i couldn't find a phone# for the tower The information must not only be disseminated but it has to comprehensible to the intented target for it to be useful.
Thank you!
Cathy Vajtay
I am based at MMU and see more GA then preivous Poster.
The are quite a few Cessna's and Pipers based at Morristown. I fly on a regular basis and while there is a fair amount of jet traffic it's not 6 to 1 more like 1 to 1. I moved my Warrior to Morristown 8 months ago to get more experiance in a tower controlled enviroment. I don't regret the move at all. Services are 1st rate. I'm 60 and got my ticket 3 years ago, so how complex can it be?
Somerset (George Walker Field) is what small airports are al
Good people, great conversation, full service fuel. I learned to fly here, so It will always be my home airport. No matter where I am based. If passing by I just can't help but landing there, it feels so comfortable.
Lincoln Park
I worked at LP from 1975-1980. Ed always called me "junior". I hated it then but over the years it was fitting. Ed was pretty old then, but he did not lack anything. He was sharp as a tack and if he missed anything Jule would let him know so.
I guess I went to work for him after he had repossed the airport from the Eastern group. I was for the most part an aircraft fueler after school and on weekends, but I wound up doing so much more. Moving planes, cutting grass, cleaning the office and assisting the mechanic when needed. And hung up a lot of what I know now are to be historical pictures in the office.
Ed always asked, every pay day, "do you want half in pay and half in flight time"? I kick my self in the butt today. I could have been trained to fly by the same guy that helped Amelia Earhart fly the Atlantic, wow Ed! And that also would have included instruction by Tony Farrell.
But I at the time liked fast cars and the girls that came with it. I think I kept Ed and the other guys happy with all the teenage girls that showed up to watch me work. But Ed would always come out, "junior we need to get doc's plane out" or something. Meaning she had to go.
Ed loved the airport and always wanted it looking its best. He also gave a lot back, never missing the chance to buy me a lunch at the Pequannock sandwich shop. He kept me stuffed with salt tabs in the summer also. And when the day was slow I would go up to his house and mow the lawn.
Jules and Ed had a nice, cozy log cabin up in the hills. The road getting there was windy and tight. If you think flying in a plane with Ed was fun, you needed to ride in a car on the way to his house. The tree limbs would fly in the open window and slap you in the face if you let it. He was a daredevil in my book.
The first flight I had in an airplane was in his J-3 Cub. I never knew you could look over your shoulder at the runway on final approach. That's how Ed did it all the time! And just prior to the wheel hitting the ground he would snap the tail around and bam you were rolling down the runway.
He came out of the office one day to see me propping an aircraft. I guess I was lucky that the plane fired up and I wasn't injured. But Ed made sure that I got some instruction before doing it again. The first instruction was a lot of ear chewing. But that's how he was, you didn't do it unless you were going to do it right.
We had one guy, Bernie. He owned a Mooney, and every time he flew it was "swift". He was German and the plane was fast. Ed would wait for him to come in for a landing and then the chase was on. Bernie would taxi way to fast for Ed's liking and he would let him know it. Better yet almost every landing Bernie would ding his prop after porposing down the runway, Ed would stop him and say he couldn't fly till it was fixed.
We had only one crash during the time I worked there. The radio shops owner had a bell 47 helicopter, that crashed just short of me while I was cutting the grass. He took off and pulled up too soon causing the clutch to go. He attempted a auto rotation but hit tail first, which caused the chopper to spin and land on its side.
Ed and Jules have since gone and I miss those hot New Jersey days at the airport. I'm glad to see that they have gone down in the history of aviation in NJ, and that they left us with so much. May LP airport continue to prosper.
Fuel Prices at Mac Dan Aviation
Thankfully, Avant Air moved out of their leaded office space at Mac Dan to give appropriate fuel competition! Mac Dan's confidential fuel discounts are rediculous. Some people/companies/flight schools/flying clubs nearly receive 20% discounts on Avgas & Jet A, the data sheets area behind the front desk in the main lobby of Mac Dan.
-That kind of discount can add up to thousands of dollars quite fast!
-Anyone wonder why their fuel trucks are always empty or why a service call for fuel takes up to thirty minutes?
KACY
For a Class C airport, this place is very GA friendly. If you are new to Class C operations, you could do alot worse that KACY as your first taste.
re: Don't depart IFR on a VFR day!
I had exactly the same experience at Republic in spring 2004, right down to sitting on the runway (as instructed by tower) and holding everyone else up. Same lesson -- if you can take a VFR departure out of a NY-area airport, do. It's the controller's error putting you on the runway before your clearance is ready, but why invite trouble in the first place?
Don't depart IFR on a VFR day!
I must have tied up traffic for 30 minutes of more waiting at the entrance for my IFR clearance. I'd taxied out after being told to, but there were 4 or 5 planes waiting behind me and by the time I suddenly realized that I could depart VFR and pick up a clearance later, the clearance had actually come. I felt like a complete dick.
First Solo out of Trinca!
My first Solo was out of Trinca about 10 years ago. The airport is a little run down, and a bit behind the times these days. I never thought much of those trees or divits in the grass as a student pilot. A bit of a bump was my launch pad for soft field take offs. All the little "Tricks" you learned flying out of Trinca only made you a better pilot. Avoiding tall trees wasn't something that made it tough, it made you FLY! Something a lot of "pavement" pilots forget how to do I think.
Trinca is one of the last grass strips around in NJ. It is a big part of many pilots fond memories. It is a truly enchanting airport. Look past the rough edges, reach back through time. You can still see and hear all the avid aviation enthusiasts sitting around on the old picnic table bench, chatting the warm summer days away. To this day, I can walk around the hangers, look in the office, sit on that bench, and get that same warm feeling of camaraderie we all shared in our never ending love for aviation.
A 7:45PM trip around the pattern in a J3 Cub, watching the sun set on a warm summer night, I can't think of anything more magical! I love this airport and only hope it will be around for a long time to come, to share with my children. Visit if you can!
S.J.M.
re: Where it all began- ED GORSKI- Great GUY
I was hired to work as a flight instructor in April 1972 by Ed Gorski, minutes after we met.
I had graduated from Embry-Riddle and headed to NJ to pursue my aviation career. No jobs were available at all, except a FEW instructor jobs! Ed Gorski was somewhat gruff, but a real nice person. I had 3 other offers for FI positions, and I ended up taking a job at Linden Airport, NJ for a lot less money ($3/hour) than Ed offered ($15/hour), however, more students and more opportunities at LDJ. I stayed at LDJ for 16 months and moved on to a Cessna 421B job at North Philadelphia, which lasted for about 18 months.
Long Story Short, I ended up getting hired at Lincoln Park in early 1975 by a group of individuals as a Flight Instructor. An Eastern Airlines Crowd of pilots, who hired a puppet manager to follow their directives, hired me. Ed had sold the Captain Jack Faes/George Kershaw, Eastern groupof pilots, the airport, in good faith, and they concentrated their collections of Pitts Aircraft throughout 1975. What a racket these guys had. Maybe I was envious, as I was trying to break into a business that had no opportunities available at the time. This crowd took advantage of everything that they could get their hands on.
I left the job in August 1975 as I had seen enough, and one of the Eastern bunch (Jack Faes) needed a job for his son, who had lost his job at Wien Airlines in Alaska, so I was the junior flight instuctor and had to leave.
What a difference from this BUNCH to Ed Gorski. Well, the Captain Jack Faes and Eastern Airlines' crowd eventually overstayed their agreement with Ed, with the hangars filled with their Pitts Special toys. They never paid their local taxes ($75,000) to Lincoln Park Township while they managed the airport, and good old Ed Gorski was contacted for a default of the real estate taxes due. I guess Ed Gorski had to throw the puppet manager Bill out on his ass, and then the Faes Eastern crowd. Then Ed took possession of his beloved airport, and I assume ran it himself for many more years.
God bless Ed Gorski, he was a straight forward honest guy, not like the low lives that had infiltrated Lincoln Park from 1975-1977. I wish Ed was still around. With respect to Eastern Airlines Captain Jack Faes, he kicked me in the ass in August 1975, and then further attempted to trash my aviation career with unfounded bad references, however, I managed a successful career in corporate aviation as a manager/chief pilot from 1979-1998, operating several Falcon 50s, Gulfstream III/IV, Lear 55, Citation VII for over twenty (20) years, all based in New Jersey. I am now a B747-400 Captain for the last ten (10) years.
I'll never forget my conversations with Ed Gorski. A straight an honest man, who always treated me with respect and kindness. I am delighted that Ed took his airport back from that bunch of Eastern Airlines pilots who had abused their stay and stacked the hangars with their toys, and abused the employees!
Wherever you are Ed, I will always remember you fondly. And as far as that Eastern Airline Bunch, they got their due, eventually, in more ways than one!
re: Where it all began- ED GORSKI- Great GUY
I was hired to work as a flight instructor in April 1972 by Ed Gorski, minutes after we met. I had graduated from Embry-Riddle and headed to NJ to pursue my aviation career. Ed Gorski was somewhat gruff, but a real nice person. I had 3 other offers for FI positions, and I ended up taking a job at Linden Airport, NJ for alot less money than Ed offered, however, more students and more opportunities at LDJ. I stayed at LDJ for 16 months and moved on to a Cessna 421B job at North Philadelphia, which lasted for about 18 months.
Long Story Short, I ended up getting hired at Lincoln Park in early 1975 by a group of individuals as a FI. An Eastern Airlines Crowd of pilots, managed by a pupet manager who followed their directives, hired me. Ed had sold the Captain Jack Faes/George Kershaw, Eastern group, the airport, in good faith, and they concentrated their collections of Pitts Aircraft throughout 1975. What a racket these guys had. Maybe I was envious, as I was trying to break into a business that had no opportuinites available, but this crowd took advantage of everything that they could get their hands on. I left the job in August 1975 as I had seen enough, and one of the Eastern bunch needed a job for his son, who had lost his job at Wein , so I was the junior guy and had to leave. What a difference from this BUNCH to Ed Gorski. Well, the Jack Faes (Larry Faes) Eastern Airlines' crowd eventually overstayed their agreement, with the hangars filled with their toys. They never paid their local taxes to Lincoln Park, and good old ed Gorski was contacted. I guess had to throw the manager out on his ass, and then the Faes crowd. Then Ed took posession of his beloved airport. God bless Ed Gorski, he was a straight forward honest guy, not like the low lives that had infiltrated Lincol Park from 1975-1977. I wish Ed was still around. With respect to Captain Jack Faes kick in my ass in August 1975, and then his attempt to trash my career with bad references, I managed a sucessful career in corporate aviation as a manager/chief pilot operating a Falcon 50, Gulfstream III/IV, Lear 55, Citation VII for over twenty (20) years, all based in New Jersey. I am now a B747-400 Captain for the last ten (10) years.
I'll never forget my conversations with Ed Gorski. A straight an honest man, who always treated me with respect and kindness. I am delighted that Ed took his airport back from that bunch of Eastern Airlines pilots who had abused their stay and stacked the hangars with their toys, and abused the employees!
Site of Hindenburg crash
Lakehurst is where the Hindenburg crashed on May 6, 1937 after a trans-Atlantic flight:
Interesting aircraft at Sky Manor
The airport's owner is also the US importer for the Beriev 103, a unique Ukrainian twin engine amphibian. It seats six, floats on its hull and its wing roots, and the two engines are mounted on pods aft of the wing. There is usually one of these on the field.
A self-serve fuel pump with credit card reader is available.
re: Where it all began
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Well maintained, but complex and not esp user friendly for C
MMU has come a long way in twenty years. Today, seeing a Cessna take off is an odd event...usually preceeded by five or six Citations, a Lear, and a few helicopters. Don't let this deter you, the ATC staff are very friendly and helpful and the airport is very convienent.
Quiet, simple, and easy to find
Woodbine is a nice airport if you'd like cheap fuel and need an airport closer to the northern end of cape may county. Parking is 5 dollars overnight on the grass. Runways are in decent shape, just watch out for banner towing in the summer...they are crazy crazy people.
Soft, short, and rough
Certainly not the most well maintained grass strip in NJ, but very accessible for training. Approaches from the south very tough with huge pine trees on the approach end. Runway undulates badly, so don't feel bad if you float every 3 seconds while bouncing down the turf. Easy to find though...grass very worn.
Impressive...and quite short
Like the other comment, make sure you can stop a plane in less than 1500 ft. The water on both ends will stop your plane for you if you can not... Beautiful airport, esp in the fall. Don't pass this stop up
Work and fly from here
CDW is indeed tough to spot especially when MMU is only 5 miles away and practically visible from space. The AFD also gives you a super long list of rules and noise abatement procedures that often scare new pilots away. Just ignore them. The airport is surrounded by industrial parks and a golf course. And who cares about golfers right? Runway 9/27 recently renamed 10/28. Lighting at night could be stronger...and don't feel bad when a controller who sounds like a man turns out to be the scariest woman alive...other than that...GREAT AIRPORT.
Nice, but not much there
Newton is a nice little strip, well maintained...and frankly, boring as all heck. You'll miss this spot if you don't look down as it's nestled in thick trees. Also, don't go off the northern approach end...there's a nice lake to cushion any further taxiing you intend to do. Other than that, great spot to practice or take a break from a long trip. No lights, and no fuel.
re: Can't find this airport
Yes, I don't see anything in the satellite photo either. According to the FAA database, there's supposed to be a private 1,400 foot turf runway there (not listed in the AFD). Does anyone have more information?
Can't find this airport
I've checked the coordinates and looked at the satellite image and found nothing at this location.
re: Just had to get this one in while it is still on the map
Yes, sadly the field closed almost a year ago, on September 30, 2006. According to the Wikipedia article, it was built in 1910, was the first aerodrome to be described as an "air-port" (in 1919), and was the founding location of the U.S. Civil Air Patrol (1941).
Hard to find
For some reason, I always find this airport hard to see from low altitude when I'm a couple of miles away. There are buildings around it and a low hill on one side. When I first visited here I was a fairly new pilot, and I wonder if my not seeing it now is just a throwback to that first visit.
JFK Jr.'s last departure
This is a nice airport for visiting northern New Jersey (a bit too far for Manhattan) -- I've stopped here a few times to visit a customer almost within walking distance. Unfortunately, the airport is most famous as the one John F. Kennedy Jr. departed from in his Saratogo on his last flight.
code NJ10
🔗 Wed, 16 Dec 2009
— @rrobledo at Dayton Heliport, United States
The FAA uses 'NJ10' for Dayton Heliport, South Brunswick, NJ